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Frank
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Posted on : February 24, 2010
Hi,
I am also looking for information regarding the passengers on the Apapa that sank in 1940. My grandfather was on the ship. His name was frank A. Shaw.
If anyone knows how to obtain a list of survivors and those that were killed, I would be very grateful. I did find the list that has the crew mambers that were killed, but not the passengers.
Thank you.
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Susie
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Posted on : November 2, 2009
Would appreciate ANY information on the Apapa sunk in 1940 off West Africa, for my aunt - her mother was on board and survived, but that's all she knows. Email me Susie cestrienne @ googlemail . com [remove gaps!] Many thanks
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Michael Pocock
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Posted on : August 19, 2007
There were three ships named Apapa owned by Elder Dempster. This wreck is the first one.
Sunk Nov. 28, 1917 by U-96 off Anglesey.
77 people were killed in the sinking.
The second one was sunk by aircraft in the North Atlantic in 1940.
michael@maritimequest.com
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Leonard
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Posted on : August 7, 2007
my Brother in Law, Frank Lomax was Mate on the Apapa when it was sunk in 1940, he is dead now but his Wife is still alive, I believe he was in an open boat for 3 days. He went on to become a Captain for Elder Dempster.
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Leonard
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Posted on : August 7, 2007
my Brother in Law, Frank Lomax was Mate on the Apapa when it was sunk in 1940, he is dead now but his Wife is still alive, I believe he was in an open boat for 3 days. He went on to become a Captain for Elder Dempster.
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wasser
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Posted on : April 24, 2007
I have phots of MV Apapa (I also travelled to West Africa on her) and would be pleased to pass them on to you
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
information soon to be available on a new web site that I am in the process of completing.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
MV Apapa ,my grandfather survived the torpedo hit and is still living .He has passenger lists,newspaper cuttings etc. Would like to know of any other survivors.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
For the record. The Olympic was the first four-stacker built for White Star by Harland & Wolff, Belfast. She was followed by the Titanic and finally the Majestic which was renamed Britannic and converted for use as a hospital ship. She was lost in 1916 following a mystery explosion thought to be either a mine or torpedo and sank on her starboard side in the Aegean Sea. The Olympic was used as a troopship but, after colliding with the Nantucket Lightship, was scrapped soon after the White Star merger with Cunard.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
This Apapa was sunk in 1917. I am researching a local man called Ernest Hebbes. He was gazetted in 1915, and sent to West Africa for “..special government work” in October of 1916. There was fierce fighting in West Africa, with both side using natives in their armies.
He was lost at sea, on the S.S Apapa, when it was torpedoed by U-boat U-96. The SS Apapa was a 7832 tonne merchant ship from the Elder, Dempster and Co. line, armed for defence. It was sunk 3 miles North by East from Lynas Point, off Anglesea, at 4am. No warning was given and 77 lives were lost, split about evenly between crew and passengers. The U-boat fired a second shot when the life boats were launched. He was returning for leave after a year away. Ernest was aged 41. Further information sought.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
Duiken op de Tubantia,en vele andere wrakken vanuit Oostende met snelle boot(16 pers) Blue Thistle.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
MV Apapa was sunk by a German torpedo Nov 1940 - my grandfather survived and was a long time crew member, her route was Liverpool-West Africa, she was sunk on her return trip. Alas my grandfather died working at Liverpool docks 10 years later. Hope these bits of info are of use.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
I travelled from Liverpool to west africa in the late 1950s on the apapa of the Elder Demspter Line and would be interested to know if there are any pictures of her.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
the position of this wreck in GPS with differential is N 53 27 830 W 04 24 970.
imfo supplyed by "JULIE ANNE" dive charters
operating out of amlwch. this is a big wreck an cannot be missed due to surface tide disturbance.
this is not a friendly wreck to dive takenote!!!!!
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
If this was the Apapa of the Elder Dempster Line I know something of her history - while afloat - I would be interested to know of her fate.
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
could you please help me on how to get ship wrecks in Treaddur bay Anglessey??
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
I can tell you the correct location as I take divers to it often. It is a wreck that has to be dived with grea CAUTION .
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
The position I was given for this wreck was as follows N53 27'51.0 W004 24'48.6. As yet I have not had the opportunity to try to find it. Hope it helps!
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
location approx 5 miles nne point linas
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
WHO WROTE THIS NONSENSE ! !
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Posted on : February 23, 2007
rom an Irish diving publication of Summer of 1989 called ‘Subsea’
Encounter in the Deep
By John Murray
On October 10th, 1918 the Royal Mail Ship, Leinster under Captain Birch was torpedoed 15 miles off Dun Laoghaire by UB 123 under Oberleutnant Roberoom and sank with the loss of more than 500 lives. It was Ireland’s greatest Maritime disaster. John Murray recently explored the wreck.
It is 70 years to the day later and two of us drag on damp wetsuits. One hundred feet below our boat, the dark shape of the Leinster is the only obstruction on a flat silty seabed that stretches for miles in every direction. Air tanks are carefully checked and strapped on. It’s a serious dive in more ways than one.
Miles from the shelter of the coast, the currents are vicious and the dive can only be carried out just as the tides change. The tension on the anchor rope eases, signaling slack water has arrived. We jump in and head down the rope into the gloom. As we pass the 60 foot mark the light diminishes rapidly. This is always a particularly cold, dark dive.
Eventually our anchor appears firmly embedded in the sand. Checking gauges, we head north. Soon, the hull appears, a dark wall towering 20 foot out of sand. Staring at us are a row of gaping portholes and lifeboat davits hanging at crazy angles. As we rise up and over the edge, the deck appears slopping away to the port side, lost in the poor visibility.
It is like a scrapyard, a confusion of wood and twisted metal. It is difficult to make out any details as everything is blanketed in marine life. Huge white and yellow anemones wave in the slight current. Heading up along the ship towards the bow, we pass to huge holes where the funnels used to sit.
At this depth the air has a slightly metallic taste and at the back of your mind is the thought that this is a grave to over 500 people. Now it is an oasis of life on an otherwise barren seabed.
Shoals of fish swirl about, their sided flashing silver in our torchlight. It’s wise to check before sticking your arm in any holes, as many have a resident conger eel. They are like a presence on the wreck, baleful eyes staring out as we swim by.
Swimming forward along the portrail, the bow gradually dips away into the sand. Here a windlass stands clear of the seabed and one of the anchors lies still chained to the ship. Returning down the center we pass a deck seat still bolted firmly in position. As the stern rears up once more we come to the one place where you can now safely enter the Leinster. A yawning black hole leads into a passageway dimly lit by shafts of green light filtering through a row of portholes.
As we swim farther in the odd lobster scuttles out of the way. Our exhaust bubbles gather like upside down mercury on the passage roof. Our torches occasionally pick out indiscernible shapes into the darkness. They bring to mind the screaming passengers who once rushed down this passage trying to escape.
Eventually we can go no further. The path is blocked by a pile of sand and twisted metal. Turning to come out we start to think that this wasn’t such a great idea. Facing us was a wall of silt kicked up by our fins on the way in. It can be quite unnerving, groping your way around in nil visibility, somewhere inside a wreck, 100 feet below the surface. The torches are as useless as headlights in a really dense fog. With one hand on our heads and the other out in front we felt our way out. Finally, to our great relief, a green glow appeared and we sailed out into clear water. Our time was up and we began to head up the rope taking one final look at the rapidly disappearing Leinster.
Above the weather was breaking, and with winter setting in, it will be at least seven months before we will be able to pay her another visit.
The Leinster was bought in 1973 by Marine Research Teoranta, in the hope that certain parts of the ship, such as the propellers and engines might be salvaged and preserved. It is planned to raise one of her anchors for display at the National Museum in Dun Laoghaire.
Ed. Note: Divers who enter wrecks in the manner above should use ropes.
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mike uk
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Posted on : October 5, 2006
The wreck of the Apapa off Anglesey is that of the first such named ship which was topedoed on 28 November 1917 with the loss of 79 lives.
The second such named ship was built in 1926 and sunk by enemy aircraft in the Atlantic on 15 November 1940 with the loss of 24 lives.
A third ship of the same name enjoyed happier times built in 1947 and sold to a Hong Kong shipping company in 1968
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Lynnda
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Posted on : September 27, 2006
My grandfather worked as an engineering officer in 1937 on the MV Apapa. I found this web site to be interesting:
http://www.regiamarina.net/subs/submarines/cappellini/cappellini_us.htm
Regards
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Arthur
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Posted on : July 24, 2006
According to a report in War Illustrated news Vol 8 No 197, published January 5th, 1945, the Apapa was sunk by enemy aircraft and survivors picked up by the Highland Star
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