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Joan
posted : August 15, 2005 Post subject: HMS Seagull
I am looking for information regarding HMS Seagull, she collided with a merchant vessel in the Firth of Clyde in 1918 and presumably sank. Does anybody know whether she is still down there, and if so where? I am not a diver but I would like to visit the site on the surface if I could get some co-ordinates.
Joan

 
matt
posted : August 22, 2005 Post subject: HMS Seagull
If you look on www.ukho.gov (hydrographic office)
then look under products and services ,then there is information for finding wrecks and co-ordinates
hope this helps
matt


 
Barry
posted : August 23, 2005 Post subject: HMS Seagull
Joan

Yes the HMS Seagull is in the Firth of Clyde.
Last year I dived it it is in 95 meters of water and the vis is only about 1 meter max. The wreck stands about 3 - 4 meters from the sea bed and is broken up in parts. When I get home I will look at my log and see if i have any more information.
Regards Barry

 
Dave t
posted : September 22, 2005 Post subject: HMS Seagull
The Clyde shipwrecks book by Peter Moir and Ian Crawford list a wreck at 55 degrees 54.323'N, 004 degrees 55.263'W (GPS). According to the authors (who are also divers themselves) "The wreck lies oriented 120/300 degrees, is approximately 65 metres longs and stands some 8 metres from the seabed. From the position and the measurement of the wreck it seems likely that this is the wreck of the (HMS) Seagull" Hope this is useful. Dave.

 
CB
posted : February 19, 2006 Post subject: HMS Seagull
I know it's a long shot, but do you have any photo's of the Seagull. A member of my family went down on the ship and I'm trying to find out some more info. Many thanks Chris

 
Dave t
posted : March 8, 2006 Post subject: HMS Seagull
I have a pic of the seagull taken (I think) whilst on patrol. If you have an email address I could forward it to you. Mine is : davewarner970@msn.com

 
Andy777
posted : March 25, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
I understand HMS sank following a collision with a merchant vessel. I too am very interested in any information about the sinking. My grandfather - Walter Blake - a stoker on the Seagull, drowned as a result.

 
ADM Diving
posted : May 10, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
Hi Joan/Andy,

So sorry to hear about both of your relatives.

Barry is spot on about its fragile state.

We are planning over the next 12 months to dive HMS Dasher the aircraft carrier of the same period also in the Clyde to place an ensign, wreath and plaque on it in memory of all those saliors. She is in 130m of water.

HMS Seagull will be one of our build up and planning dives sites for that expedition. We can be contacted directly through our website and we can arrange to likewise do the same for the Seagull and all who sailed and are now at rest in her.

We have like most other divers a very respectful approach to diving on these wrecks. Most of those in water over 80m are rarely visited as this is very advanced diving. Over 130m is extremely advanced diving and very serious commitments are needed for the safety of the divers whilst they endure hours and hours of decompression.

We can be contacted via www.admdiving.co.uk

If we run side scan sonar of HMS Seagull you would be most welcome to get a scan image of her resting - these images are colour and are much better detail than the pregnant baby scans we are all used to seeing.

Likewise we can put you in touch with the MoD War Graves Commission for other photo's and details - as most of this will now be declassified.

Regards Andrew.

 
steve hill
posted : October 16, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
hi i am doing family history on the hill family and a relative of mine drowned on hms seagull a william charles hill stoker 1st class and i am looking for any info on the ship such as crew list pics

steve

 
leesana
posted : October 23, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
I believe you are researching history of the Hill family. In my research I came across a grave with the name Willie beloved son of .... who was lost at sea Sept. 30th. 1918 aged 19years. I identified him as being on the HMS SEAGULL. Have photos of the grave.

 
Andy777
posted : October 23, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
Hi Steve
Your relative worked with my grandfather Walter Blake who was also a stoker on HMS Seagull and also drowned. You should be able to get pics of the ship on the internet quite easily. Pics of the crew? If you get them please let me know.

Andy




 
leesana
posted : October 23, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
Steve
Sorry haven't got the hang of this yet. I forgot to say who I was directing my message to

 
steve hill
posted : December 30, 2008 Post subject: HMS Seagull
hi would it be pos if you could email me the pics of wiliam's grave plz my email address is stephen.hill14@ntlworld.com

thanks steve

 
john nicolson
posted : May 19, 2009 Post subject: HMS Seagull
I have some info on HMS Seagull here...

http://www.finstrokes.com/divelinks/malin/hms_sealion.html

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
have you found anything yet. my great uncle albert wheeler a stoker was also killed

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
did you get any co-ordinates at all?

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
hi
my great uncle albert wheeler was killed in this collision. he was a stoker too. what uptodate info do you have and can you put me in touch with anyone else looking or provide links for more info please

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
hi
would you still have a copy of the photo please

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
hi
did you find out anymore info on the seagull 1918 as my great uncle albert wheeler a stoker went down in this collision

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
hi
my great uncle albert wheeler died in this collision - what was the outcome of the dive please?

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
joan
sorry forgot to use your name re seagull 1918 firth of clyde collision albert wheeler

 
marie
posted : April 5, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
ADM diving
sorry forgot to head up message
re: hms seagull firth of clyde albert wheeler stoker

 
walter blake
posted : October 3, 2010 Post subject: HMS Seagull
is this Andy I have been trying to find out about HMS Seagull my grandfather was also Walter Blake 1st stoker drowned in the collision any infro regarding photos of crew or HMS Seagull I would be grateful
regards Corina

 
JoanC
posted : July 6, 2011 Post subject: HMS Seagull
Through illness and bereavement I have been out of action for 5 years, but to the people who replied to my original posting back then, thank you for getting back to me. I do have more information including photos of the Seagull and a list of casualties, so if anyone wants to contact me please feel free to email me at jcowdell@btinternet.com
Joan

 
Maureen
posted : October 9, 2011 Post subject: HMS Seagull
Hi Joan This is really bazzare i was doing

 
Maureen
posted : October 9, 2011 Post subject: HMS Seagull
My Uncle was also Albert wheeler who was on the seagull
so you and I must be related how bizzare is that he was my dads brother please post a reply

 
john nicolson
posted : July 15, 2012 Post subject: HMS Seagull
N55.90565 W -4.92110 Depth 94m

If you want it on google... a link

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=55.9065,-4.92110&hl=en&ll=55.907077,-4.891148&spn=0.068222,0.178699&sll=55.908905,-4.890633&sspn=0.068218,0.178699&t=m&z=13

 
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