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finding_stu
posted : July 19, 2008 Post subject: Help please
iv spent endless hours online browsing diving site for coarses,opinions,jobs ect ect
wanted your opinion;
im pritty sure im going to do my coarses at UWC but im not sure if i should do it bit by bit or a package,im currenty saving for the coarse/coarses and unsure what the best option is,
at the moment im an advanced open water suba diver.
all opinions all advice welcome

thanks
i stay in aberdeen at the moments and looking long term to do welding/sat diving in the offshore indusrty,

 
the_bull
posted : July 19, 2008 Post subject: Help please
hi stu im in aberdeen as well. ive spent a few years sport diving at the uwc and meat a lot of the guys that run it. thats why im doing my coarse at the PDA. in my full time job i get to see a lot of newbe divers all the pda guys loved it. all the uwc guys liked the coarse but after talking to the pda guys wished they whent to the pda. im just going on what the guys say.
Did you get your advanced scuba at awl? if so i must have seen you around the shop(and no i dont work there)
if i was you give the pda a call as well as uwc

 
finding_stu
posted : July 20, 2008 Post subject: Help please
thanks for reply, no i did my aow at bans resort in koh tao,
what would you say are the difrences between the 2 centres?
was looking at doing the standard career package and doing welding somwhere els

 
the_bull
posted : July 20, 2008 Post subject: Help please
The uwc. premium industry package 11137
which has a welding coares with it.

pda. hse pro scuba + commercial surface supplied(
css) + wet bell inc rya powerboat level 2.7750
no welding coares
you should go on there websites and have a look.

 
finding_stu
posted : July 20, 2008 Post subject: Help please
it was the uwc standard pakage as the uwc welding is guff as its not a proper qualification, will have a look at the other one though

 
bartkazzz
posted : July 25, 2008 Post subject: Help please
hallo. my name is bart, i'm polish. i just make my aowd and i love it. i would like to meet with You to speak about commercial diving. if it's not a problem for You, just write me where and when wecan meet. im in aberdeen is well. this is my contact number 07707624186. thanks

 
finding_stu
posted : July 26, 2008 Post subject: Help please
ummmmmm no thanks..............just look through this orum foe advice as im unsure too

 
DougieO
posted : July 28, 2008 Post subject: Help please
Hi,

My name is Dougie Ormiston, I work for The Underwater Centre.

Earlier in this thread, Mr. Bull posted this:

'hi stu im in aberdeen as well. ive spent a few years sport diving at the uwc and meat a lot of the guys that run it. thats why im doing my coarse at the PDA. in my full time job i get to see a lot of newbe divers all the pda guys loved it. all the uwc guys liked the coarse but after talking to the pda guys wished they whent to the pda. im just going on what the guys say.
Did you get your advanced scuba at awl? if so i must have seen you around the shop(and no i dont work there)
if i was you give the pda a call as well as uwc'


Dear Mr Bull, when did you leisure dive at The Underwater Centre? We don't permit leisure diving and haven't for a number of years.

Who did you meet from The Underwater Centre and what, exactly, did they do to put you off?

We're all for every potential student speaking to as many schools as they want to. The simple fact of the matter is this... the courses offered by the different schools are not the same. You need to ensure that the course you choose will give you the best training to make a go of your new career. Ask the schools about instructors, the number of dives you'll do, bottom time, what you'll be doing whilst you're diving etc. rather than whether you'll get a shiny new knife/drysuit/etc. as part of the package.

Regarding the welding course we run... you will have to sit an exam to get your ticket at the TWI test centre in Middlesbrough. The format of the course is the same as learning to drive, you have lessons where you learn how to weld, then you sit the test, I'm not sure why this is such a big deal to a couple of people.

As I mentioned earlier, the most important think is to ensure that you select the school and courses that are most likely to give you the tickets and skills you'll need for a career. You're paying for an education, not for a diving holiday.

 
finding_stu
posted : July 28, 2008 Post subject: Help please
going somwhere els to sit a test is inconveniant,and the equipment and test enviroment may be diffrent which makes it harder but more "realistic", and as you dont test there is less chance of being up to the aquired standard.
im taking nothing away from UWC as its still my first choice although PDA do welding aswell.....
its rather frustrating that aberdeen dont do comercial diving as i have to pay for accomidation on top.
would you recomend doing Surface suplied first then doing some inshore work then come back to do top up
or
All in one?

 
DougieO
posted : July 29, 2008 Post subject: Help please
Hi!

The whole welding ticket thing is a bit of an issue at the moment. To be completely honest, we'd love to be able to conduct the welding certification so that, at the end of the course, you get your ticket. We are looking at ways of doing this.

Historically, we've always advocated that students do a couple of years in civils, simply because you'll spend more time in the water and gain experience faster rather than going straight into offshore oil and gas. In an ideal world, we'd still advocate this. Unfortunately, it isn't an ideal world and less experienced divers are being given chances offshore, admittedly in the less attractive locations around the world. The gap between qualifying, going offshore and sat. training is the shortest it has (probably) ever been. This isn't necessarily a good thing. Fitting in add-on courses later on can be a real hassle, as they may mean you may have to turn down a couple of jobs to do the courses and you'll have to fit in with the gaps in the school's schedule. On this basis alone, if you're planning on making a serious go of diving (which you seem to be) doing as much of the training as you can up front will be a benefit as it will put more time in your book and give you a bit more flexibility and employability. That said, everyone is different and it very much depends on what you're hoping to do. If your plan is to qualify and do a couple of years in say, aquaculture, then hanging fire on stuff like the NDT and welding is an option.

 
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