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posted : September 9, 2004 Post subject: Windermere
To all divers who now or in the future might be considering diving in Windermere.
PLEASE PLEASE keep out of the bay areas to the east and south of Wray Castle on the western side of the lake. The reason being that this has been officially designated as a “scientifically sensitive site” by English Nature specially in order to preserve the sediment structures as well as the aquatic life living in the lakeshore areas. Actually it is deep dark dangerous and with nothing of interest to a diver.
The Freshwater Biological Association have asked me to request in the most polite but strongest terms that divers do not disturb the sediments in those areas.
Various groups have scanned that area with sonar for many years nothing of interest to us has ever been detected.
Divers have searched that area years ago, even using Magnetometers, and nothing of interest has been found.
Boats and barges have been found in other parts of the lake but certainly NO AIRCRAFT.
When diving any area of the lake (or lakes) try not to disturb the sediment not only because it ruins your immediate visibility but because this destroys the valuable record (pollen grains etc) for assessing both the history of the lake and the local landscape, as well as the level of pollutants.
If divers disturb the sediment the disturbance could release some of the unwanted chemicals back into the lake water instead of locking them up out of harms way.
Certain areas are also protected from disturbance because the Arctic Char, a declining breed of fish could have its breeding grounds destroyed by sediment disturbance.

We as divers have enough bad press so please don’t add to it.
Any info required on the aircraft that are supposed to be there please contact me as I have researched it quite deeply over the years.

posted : September 9, 2004 Post subject: Windermere
was borne at Miller Howe, Windermere in 1943, and was told that I saw, and have a VERY vague memory, of an aircraft crashing in the lake. I was told much later it was a Messerschmitt 110 from Norway which was trying to attack the Sunderland factory on the lakeshore,and which was shot down by an AA gun on the top of Wray castle.
Any comment?

posted : October 12, 2006 Post subject: Windermere

I run the WIndermere Hydro Hotel in Bowness that overlooks the north basin of windermere and have recently had the opportunity to study the bed of the lake with side scan sonar. I would be very interested to see some, or any, of your research regarding aircraft in on or possibly under windermere that you refer to in the above article.


ken Burchill, MD The Hydro bowness on widermere email address is ken@thehydro

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